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  Is there a link that tell of the date of every single past JW memorial?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is something i'm trying to figure out, but i just can't seem to find it or am not looking in the right direction.

  is there a link that tells of every single jw memorial dates from the past?.

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  This may get you started: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=date%2Bmemorial&p=sen&r=occ&fc%5B%5D=mwb&fc%5B%5D=km
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  VIDEO - Memorial toast stuns Jehovahs Witnesses congregation!

  by John_Carter_1912 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i applaud this great and holy man!

  do you?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fstqepi9iu.

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  Anders Andersen

  I'm with Gorby on this one.

  I'm not religious, but I'm not against people worshipping in peace.

  I don't see the need to bring Watchtower down. They only need to change some harmful aspects of their religion.

  One aspect is the fear and persecution complex. Religions need to be open and inclusive instead of closed and exclusivist like Watchtower.

  Activism like this pushes Watchtower to become even more closed, fearful of persecution. It pushes the us vs them agenda.

  I see that as counterproductive.
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  Observed at the Memorial

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i went to the memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where i was doing some research and admiring the architecture.

  i'm in my street clothes, i look nice but i stood out like a sore thumb.

  i went in as it started and got a seat in the back.

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  This lady next to me tried to show me scriptures, I kinda blew her off enough that she stopped and left me to myself. I got the vibe they do that knowingly or not to see if you'll obey them: Look at the scripture, listen to me read or explain it, do as I say. I'd welcome other posters thoughts on that.

  I don't think they do this knowingly for that purpose, but rather automatically and subconsciously. Those who read along are judged and labeled as meek, willing to learn the bible truth, honest hearted. Those who don't want to read along are judged and labeled as obstinate, probably unwilling to learn Bible truth, independent. They might still be saved but they'll be watched with suspicion rather than joy.

  I think it has to do with roles. Jehovah's Witnesses are not like the former Bible Students that my great-grand mother joined in the early '20s. They are no longer "students" in their mind. They can only be teachers. They only relate to non-JW's in a superior teacher role.

  Wow, what a powerful thought. Indeed, JW don't see themselves as Bible students but really as Bible Teachers...and the only good ones too. So much arrogance packed in a thin veneer of humility...
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  Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

  (i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

  anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

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  Anders Andersen

  @Corney,

  Thanks!

  For the Netherlands there are about 40 out of about 365 congregations that still need to upload their 2018 statement.

  With what I have so far 2018 is 101% of 2017. However 2017 and 2016 both were only 94% of the previous year. So 2018 is only 90% of 2015.

  The above is looking at the total money flowing into all the congregations. This includes donations made into the WWW bin of the congregation, but also proceeds of local real estate sales.

  The above is excluding any donations and legacies made by individuals directly to the branch. So it could be that the decrease in income for the congregations is caused by JW donating directly to the branch.

  The branch also has uploaded statements.

  Watchtower 2018 vs 2017 is 144%

  CCJW 2018 vs 2017 is 137%

  Problem is these numbers probably also include money received from HQ, perhaps for special projects.

  Watchtower statement 2018 specifically mentions that revenue from inheritances and legacies were higher than expected.

  CCJW 2018 statement specifically mentions the higher income is caused by them being gifted earlier zero interest loans (from individuals? Or HQ? Doesn't say that) and gifts received from other institutions with similar objectives (probably Watchtower NL or HQ, it doesn't say).

  Watchtower income 2018 vs 2015 is 97%

  CCJW income 2018 vs 2015 is 66%

  So it appears money is decreasing over the past years, but not necessarily during 2018. The CA issue is not yet very visible in the statements...
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  Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

  (i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

  anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

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  @blondie,

  Thanks for the info. I understand that as a result there is no publicly available information about the finances of JW congregations in the USA.
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  Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

  (i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

  anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

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  Anders Andersen

  Canada: https://apps.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/advancedsearch-eng.action (search for both Jehovah's Witnessesand Temoins de Jéhovah)
  
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  Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

  (i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

  anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

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  Anders Andersen

  Slim, thanks a lot for that information! Really helpful!
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  Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

  (i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

  anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

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  Anders Andersen

  Australia is added to the list now.

  https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity?name_abn%5B0%5D=Jehovah
  
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  Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

  (i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

  anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

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  Anders Andersen

  Hi there,

  Many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.

  Where I live (Netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and JW do this at JW-anbi.nl. (I'm quite certain almost no JW knows about that site btw.)

  Anyway I've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the Borg is doing over time.

  Now it occured to me that I could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture. A big issue though is that it's not easy to find where these statements are published.

  So please help me out by answering these questions:

  • Does your country require charities to publish yearly financial statements
  • If so, do you know where these are published for JW?

  Please don't forget to include what country you're answering for :-)

  What I got so far (I'll update once more information comes in):

  • The Netherlands: http://JW-anbi.nl
  • United Kingdom: http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/registerhomepage.aspx
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  How Do They Chose Someone To Be A Member Of The Illustrious Governing Body?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm mean were talking making someone a policy maker for the corporation that can have serious financial consequences.

  i'm sure intelligence is not high on the priority list for this noble office being they hate higher education and consider it a waste of time.. i'm sure they would thoroughly know the party line as any self respecting mind control would never choose an original thinker.

  i'm also sure a lot of ass kissing happens before one gets chosen as a ass wiping helper which seem to be a sort of initiation into governing body corporate politics and a sort of proving ground to show your determination protect the organization from the enemy be they what ever source.

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  In the first century, Christian cast lots to choose Judas' replacement, Matthias. Like tossing dice and praying to god to control what came up to choose Barsabbas or Matthias.

  This sprang into my mind too. JW always claim everything they do is Bible based. Yet they never cast the lot for anything. Especially not for deciding who's gonna be new boss.